BAE callsigns in the 1990s

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In a past life during the 1990s I used to be a regular commuter from Warton to Farnborough and Dunsfold. Originally a J31, then a J41 before an ATP was put on the Farnborough route. The flights had a fixed callsign. If my memory serves me they introduced a lunchtime service as well as the morning and evening flights at some point Does anyone have a pucker list?

Warton (0745) – Farnborough (0830) Tarnish 30?
Farnborough (0920) – Warton (1015) Tarnish 31?

Warton (1620) – Farnborough (1715) Tarnish 32?
Farnborough (1745) – Warton (1845) Tarnish 33?

In 2000 as Dunsfold began to move work up North, a Titan ATR was put on the Farn to Warton route on Mondays and Fridays, again anyone know the call signs used.

Warton / Dunsfold (some days op via Filton, others direct)

these are the sort of times I used to go, there were obviously more flights. Were these Tarnish or hawker callsigns?

Dunsfold (0800) - Warton (0900)
Warton (0915) - Filton (1000) - Dunsfold (1030)
Warton (0915) - Dunfold (1015)
Warton (1630) - Dunsfold (1725)

Cheers

Bob

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I remember Tarnish being a Bae callsign before Felix was used. Is this latter one still current?
As I remember the main Jetstream 31 used was G-BLKP, and the Dunsfold one was G-BWWW (though the latter did sometimes turn up at Farnborough. Others that I remember being subbed were G-BRGN and an all blue one (either G-IBLW or IBLX or maybe both) Jetstream 41s I remember seeing on the shuttle were G-JMAC & G-BWUI. Of course Eastern Airways J41s currently do the Friday shuttle flights. Then, of course, we had ATP G-CORP, before the 'jet age' came when Bae146s took over, Mainly G-OBAE but sometimes you'd get G-BLRA & more latterly G-TYPH.
Other regulars I recall seeing were HS125s G-TCAP, TSAM & BWSY. I think, at one time they used Ce421 G-BDCS. And at Dunsfold there was PA44 G-BGCO.
If anyone can add to this (or even correct anything) then please do.

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TBAE, was sold last year OWTN emb145 replaced it. TYPH is allocated to the Munich flights and OWTN the farn shuttle, however depending on pax numbers these are switched quite regularly. The Eastern Jetstreams are no longer scheduled and either OWTN/TYPH do the friday shuttles. Occasionally Eastern will be used but this is purely adhoc.

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SMALL Correction G-TBAE NOT OBAE ATP G-CORP was really nice . G-BWWW Is still about as research
Aircraft ; Tarnish is still used by BAE On mil aircraft . Felix is BAE Corporate Travel ltd only used for Shutttles
current Shuttle

MONDAY TO FRIDAY AM Felix 41\42 eve 43 \44 45\46 has been used if second flight needed
Friday only the Felix 43\44 used for EMBRAER\146 OR EZY 101\102 For jetstream41



G-BWWW At SBAC 2012 Used as no Pilot research Aircraft

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Oops! I stand corrected on the Bae146, It was indeed G-TBAE that I meant to post. A little research shows that G-OBAE was an HS125. Photos posted on Airliners.net have this aircraft at FAB in 1980 & 1982, probably as an air show exhibit:  www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=G-OBAE

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Up until the early 90s, they used the registration rather than the Tarnish callsign, then the CAA stepped in and insisted as they were effectively public transport flights, they must get an official ICAO callsign allocated, hence Felix. The ATP was replaced on the Farnborough run as it generated more noise complaints from the Fleet/Church Crookham area and in any case, it's poor rate of climb meant it spent too long at low level.

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I can confirm that the noisiest aircraft I've worked on on the ground at LHR was the Manx and BM ATPs

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ATPs were pretty noisey inside too. Droning back and forth was not the best of fun but did get my passenger flying hours up. We used to call it the Skoda of the skies but that was before VW bought Skoda. I recall we could not sit on first few rows due to weight and balance issues. As corporate shuttle there were no suitcases to counterbalance.

Tarnish (WTN) is a Warton call sign, the number being the individual test pilot in most cases except for the "scheduled" services. Dunfold used "Hawke"r plus first letter of test pilot's surname eg Hawker Bravo or Hawker Tango.

I am sure they used Tarnish in the 90's and not Felix on corporate shuttle, As for types it started with a few J31, the 41s then G-Corp then the extra Titan mon/Fri flights to ferry the ex Dunsfold workers for a week at Warton. Once the Titan crew got to know us they were a great laugh. should have made a note of the numbers at the time. Obviously being on board I did not listen to the comms. Got a few goes in 125s and 146s as substitutions from time to time.

Happy days

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bit of digging


Farnborough 19 JAN 1988 G-BLKP

dunsfold 13FEB 1988 G-BWWW

Ist Hs 125 i Have Loggged G-BGYR 06/07/1989 Think into FAB

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Bit More

BAE Fleet August\sept 2000

G-BLRA

G-TCAP

G-BWSY

G-BGYR

G-TSAM

G-CORP Warton Shutttle Tarnish 41\42 43\44

G-BLKP Dunsfold Shuttle up to closure of Airfield .

G-BWWW Transfered to Eurofighter Programme

cant find regs TTAN\ZAP Aircraft but will keep looking .

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cant trace any more volumes tonight as means a dusty trip to the loft

But am not sure if i have written records pree 88

South Side (Carrole Aviation (130.570) opened 16jan 1989 official opening 25th jan 89 (G-LRII) Carole AV Resident)

also Noted the Sea harriers X Dunsfold using HAWKER HAWKER ROMEO Noted 17march 89 overfly FAB

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Nov 10, 2014 21:39:29 GMT 1 @seaharrierfa2 said:

Dunsfold used 'Hawker' plus first letter of test pilot's surname eg Hawker Bravo or Hawker Tango.


Happy days

Not necessarily; Granted Hawker Delta was Duncan Simpson (taking him up to Hatfield for the first visit of the prototype Hawk he said 'Farnborough, is 350 knots OK through Woodley or would you like me to slow down?')but Hawker 97? You'll never guess.

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Whilst talking about Bae, Seen on another group..... Quite a refreshing attitude really :-)


This was posted on the Bae website for all employees to see, nice little article.

An introduction from Tim Baldwin, Head of Security, Warton

Many of you will be aware that Warton Site has an enthusiastic Aviation Spotter community who can be found on Bush Lane to the South of the Airfield. When the airfield is active we can expect a regular group of enthusiasts to be occupying ‘Spotters Hill’ or setting up camp along the fence line from Crash Gate 2 to the 90 degree left hand bend. Whilst many are local to the Lancashire area we do get visitors from as far as Lincolnshire, Dorset and Germany.

However, what isn’t perhaps as widely understood is that these enthusiasts voluntarily act as Warton’s First Line of Security. Yes, really. Over the years the Warton Security team has developed an effective working relationship with our friends from the other side of the fence to act as eyes and ears to events that ‘don’t look right’ or to moderate the sometimes over enthusiastic spotters who may not fully appreciate the sensitivities of Warton site. It’s a much valued relationship that ultimately helps us ensure that information doesn’t get into the wrong hands.

Credit has to go to MAI Investigations Office Peter Hardacre who acts as a direct liaison with the spotters on a regular basis. All enthusiasts are issued with a contact card encouraging them to report any occurrence, however trivial to Warton Control Room. This they do regularly with considerable enthusiasm. Several of the enthusiasts publish their photographs (in near real time) on’ Fighter Control’.
We recently invited four regular enthusiasts onto site so that we could give them a taste of what we do here. After all, they do provide a valuable security service for free. In return, they were happy to reveal a little bit about themselves. Hollie, Brian, Eric and Gary will each be appearing in this week’s Spotlight on Spotters.

Never forget ... they’re always watching!

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Needs a few more to do the Same instead of Jobs worths security .