New road

[Mike]

You can now take the road opposite the Queens, turn right at the new traffic lights as if going into the new housing estate ( the old RAE Hostel)& the new road will take you to the rear of the Aviator & FAST museum & ultimately bring out to existing road behind A shed.
You still cant get out at Barons but can the other two exit points

Double yellow lines both sides so no stopping although there is a foot path along each side of road

Mike

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

saw people along there and stopping to look around not advisable there are CCTV Cams .

[Deleted]

During show week the whole of IQ Farnborough will have extra security so not sure you'll be able to get down there without a pass.

Still worth a try though as it goes right past the end of the runway ;0)

[Deleted]

A friend tried spotting from this footpath recently (left his car outside) and received a lot of abuse from one of the Aviator's security staff who threatened him with the police, prosecution for trespassing etc. if he didn't leave! He left!
Presumably the Aviator staff don't want their patrons having to look at anoraks with telescopes, cameras etc. while they sip their cocktails in the bar!

[Deleted]

is this a private road or a public right of way???

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

Doubt it is public road as originally this area was inside RAE Perimeter . possibly owned by
Slough Estates but they sold loads of land . FAST land is still slough estates but thankfully protected
from the Vandelism to the RAE Buildings when first bought .

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

(airfield Neighbourhood watch Sgt Henderson)

I have EMAILED sgt henderson at Farnborough police to get the offical
view .

[Deleted]

Jun 30, 2010 17:44:23 GMT 1 @eelmoor said:

is this a private road or a public right of way???

I believe its Slough Estate's, since it was them who "announced" it was opening. I would think there's nothing to stop you using it normally. In fact it was recently used as an exit road for an exhibition/trade show, but that was before the roundabout end was open.

Apparently the council won't let it be used as a through road, which is why there are the bollards by Barons. Shame since you'd think it would ease traffic in central Farnborough, but then I guess the council would have to adopt it and that means cost

In the week of the show (and possibly the week before) the whole IQ Farnborough site gets locked down. They won't even let those of us who work there take photographs unless you are in (or better still on the top of) the car park.

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

Reply from SGT Henderson

As far as I am aware the road is a public road but will be closed during the airshow

During the close run up I have been told nobody will be allowed in this area but until then I can see no reason why you cannot go on foot. I am sure any vehicles will be classed as a security risk

I will try to speak with FIA next week and see if I can find anything out for you

Adam

[Deleted]

it could become the Myrtle Ave of Farnborough then ;D

[Deleted]

Jun 30, 2010 17:00:11 GMT 1 @adola68 said:

A friend tried spotting from this footpath recently (left his car outside) and received a lot of abuse from one of the Aviator's security staff who threatened him with the police, prosecution for trespassing etc. if he didn't leave! He left!
Presumably the Aviator staff don't want their patrons having to look at anoraks with telescopes, cameras etc. while they sip their cocktails in the bar!

That really doesn't seem like a friendly place at all. Contrast their attitude with The Rennaissance Hotel at Heathrow where I stayed a few weeks ago (to see Air France's A380s) And who have spotter's package deals. Is The Aviator missing a trick or what!!
Rant Over!!

[Deleted]

if its a public road with a public footpath as the police say then theres no reason why a member of the public shouldn't be on it!!! just ignore the security staff in the hotel

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

Please take it easy with the Hotel people there not very friendly. We have had several run ins with them
at Dairy gate and the Police did try to help and calm things down but to be blunt they dont want to
know .they made it plain that nobody is to go anywhere near there Hotel so i deff wont .
i Will bring this matter to Sgt Henderson Again to see if can have a word.

[Deleted]

There are now signs on the new road saying it will be closed from 12th - 28th July!!

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

hi

Thanks the update . i have emailed Sgt Henderson and explained whats occured on the footpath
after the show this area may become popular with spotters so we need to know where we
stand on this public footpath thing . Bottem of RAE Road is close to EAST APRON i
use FAST area to view as thats not always open this path could be great and for Landing
Shots on 24 Over the Swan , will post reply soon as i recieve one

[Deleted]

Depending on what the eventual answer to the question is. If it is that the road is public then I don't see that The Aviator can really do anything about it bar shouting. If it's not a public place, then it would depend upon the owner of the land. But, as I said in my previous post, that hotel really does seem a most unpleasant place with nothing to recommend it and I certainly won't be to anyone. My recent stay at Heathrow's The Rennaissance wasn't exactly cheap, but I could afford it and it suited my purpose. It also shows what a sensible attitude to enthusiasts can achieve.

[Deleted]

When we went to the airshow this year, the shuttle bus from Farnborough used the new road, so I had a little potter this afternoon in the car. It appears to be a fully open public road, complete with proper direction signs.

There are double yellow lines all the way along by the airfield and CCTV cameras with a couple of machine gun towers near The Aviator. Ok, I made the last bit up, but I wouldn't be surprised were it true!

So you can't stop but it is open as a through route from the IQ site to the Queens Hotel.

Geoff

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

On foot that should be ok to walk though good views of East apron if there was anything
there after all the show stuf finelly goes.. inside the fence at show time is where i spent
the Most of the display right by the Hotel .machine gun towers old are 1940s Stuf probable
now SAMSs Lazer Tazer and any anti spotter device there jobs worths can use, but give
them a wave if walking by .i did mention this to certain people They were amused .

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

HI

Positive Response Now over to you to respond by Email we can get
this Sorted
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If I could ask that the members put complaints by email to me and I will arrange for them to be investigated. If they could tell me exactly where they were in relation to the hotel and also what was said. If they can describe the member of staff then I will be able to deal with the issue

If they can also tell me if they want further action or just words of advice at this stage it would help

I will speak with the hotel manager and discuss this with them once I receive some emails

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony HOME [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 05 August 2010 21:31
To: Henderson-Parish, Adam
Subject: AVIATOR security


Dear Friend

Could you please look into a problem with the Aviator hotel security and people walking on the New public road . one our members on foot was challenged by there security and told in a very threatening way to leave he was tresspasing on Private hotel property , when informed that this is a public road more abuse threats to call TAG security and get him Forcibly removed . This simply is not on but rather than risk further he left . we dont want any fuss with them or Tag .i have aked Peter to write to you and any other members who have had problems



Tony
farnborough-aviation -group
Twitter Tony_1976

[Buster the Bear]

Imagine being forcibly removed illegally from a public road.

The ‘out of court’ settlement would be huge!

[Admin (Annette Andria)]

Please Respond to The below then we can get it sorted

T


----- Original Message -----
From: <[e-mail]>
To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: AVIATOR security


Tony

I have spoken with the hotel manager and he has informed me that the staff have no reason to ask you to leave. They are fully aware that it is now a public road. They have asked for a description of the staff member and how we know that the person worked for them.

Please could you assist with this information

Thanks

Adam