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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 18:07:02 GMT 1
Hi Forumites Does anybody know where Golf Lane, Farnborough is? This is in connection with the activities of Vickers Experimental work during WW2.. Tia Andywis
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Post by Buster the Bear on Nov 26, 2013 21:22:34 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 21:58:30 GMT 1
found this on web....Golf lane Farnborough, picture at Kew national archives of Golf Lane 1926-1942..no pic visible on web, however it also gives a grid reference of OSGB36: SU 853 551; WGS84: 51.2881314551169, -0.776644639176151, which if you put into a grid reference finder drops the pin behind the Monkey Puzzle (which was a farmhouse before a pub)...Im not sure how long Southwood Golf course has been there but a friend remembers the houseing estate as a ground fill site !! personally I would of thought Golf Lane would have been near the Army golf course....so summing up..Im not sure how accurate the grid reference finders are, go to FAST at the weekend and ask or alternatively contact Kew !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 22:08:11 GMT 1
History of Sothwood golf course states
In the early 1970’s the opportunity was taken by Rushmoor Borough Council to make use of the land near Cove Brook. Construction works commenced and the Southwood Golf Course was opened in 1977 as a 9-hole pay as you play course.
So unless there was a golf course of some sort there earlier in history I can see why it would be called Golf lane !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 22:20:03 GMT 1
bit more...historic farnborough has a picture in this gallery www.historicfarnborough.co.uk/gallerymisc.html titled "photos of the Basingstoke Canal and Golf Lane from 1939" which I cant find at the moment...however this does seem to put Golf lane on the Army golf club side of the airfield
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Post by chevvron on Nov 27, 2013 5:01:46 GMT 1
Up to the 70s, an RAE site called 'Cove Radio' occupied the golf course area near the Monkey Puzzle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 6:35:42 GMT 1
Perhaps the co ordinates given are correct then ??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 8:34:03 GMT 1
Bit more digging after Chevvrons input, Looking in the Maps section of the above historicFarnborough page there is a track that leads out of the back of Southwood farm on the older 1930's maps and leads to a bridge over Cove Brook, there is also an overhead photo (no date known) titled "Cove Radio Station and Southwood" this again shows the track, other dated photos show golf bunkers in the area well before the current course was built. remnants of this track still remain as does the bridge over Cove Brook although not the original one !! I used to live very close to this track and always wondered if it had some history, perhaps it does !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 21:14:11 GMT 1
The golf bunkers near Southwood were probably the remains of Bramshot Golf Club, which was opened in 1905 and requisitioned by the Air Ministry in 1940. N.G.T.E Pystock was built on this site. An article titled Bramshot Golf Club, Hants can be found on the website. Regards Cyril
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 21:34:25 GMT 1
Were these behind and to the right of southwood farm (monkey puzzle) as you look at it or on the now disused pyestock site near Bramshot halt station?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 21:48:03 GMT 1
This was on the site of the now disused NGTE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:04:02 GMT 1
Up to the 70s, an RAE site called 'Cove Radio' occupied the golf course area near the Monkey Puzzle. Cove Radio station was opposite the Monkey Puzzle, now a housing estate, unless it extended on both sides of the road in the 70's
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Post by Buster the Bear on Nov 27, 2013 22:11:05 GMT 1
I would suggest any link might be found at Brooklands, the heart and soul of Vickers. The wealth of knowledge and material 'on-site' is staggering. If I could not find any info from FAST, I would head to head up to Brooklands.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:29:58 GMT 1
Just realised, Vickers Close, Farnborough, is roughly in the area (RAFborough) that the aforementioned Monkey Puzzle track ends after the bridge over cove brook ! I cant help but think Southwood is the right area for Golf Lane
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Post by Buster the Bear on Nov 27, 2013 22:55:07 GMT 1
Local council web site, or physical visit to their H.Q. to find out the reason for the road name. They would have this in their records.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 23:17:57 GMT 1
Forumites Thank you all very much for your inputs. The reason I made the post was because, whilst researching Vickers Experimental and Development Test Flying, I found a document at the (Brooklands)Museum (Yes, BtheB, I am a Volunteer there, in the Library)listing the Vickers dispersed sites. One such site was indicated as "W47", at Golf Lane, Farnborough and was used for Experimental (aircraft) erection.I presume photographs taken of the Windsor and Type 423 aircraft F7/41)at Farnborough were taken at that location, and that access into their site was made without having to go through the RAE A trip to FAST is on the cards;the National Aerospace Library is very interesting and is a useful source of information. I will keep you posted.... Ttfn Andy Wis
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 8:39:31 GMT 1
Hi Andy, As you can tell I love all this detective work... Lol, if 'W47' is in fact where we seem to of placed it them yes it was off airfield, FAST should have a list of the sites and 'W47' seems to be a building number or at least location number. If I can convince my youngest daughter to pop in to FAST saturday then I will have a little dig around for you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2013 19:35:49 GMT 1
Hi again, Popped into FAST today on the elusive Golf Lane Hunt, after a very warm welcome from the staff there and lots of conversation about the Bramley Golf course (near Fleet Pond ) when the guy on reception came forward (name eludes me now, Bill will know) he started at The RAE in 1936 as a 16 year old !!! he remembers Golf Lane very well, said there was a hangar down there back in the day, location, somewhere near "Runways End" Scout HQ behind the Army Golf club !, they have a List of building numbers and their locations so "W42" shouldnt be to hard to track down , they also have quite a few pics of the Windsor aircraft you mention on the ground at Farnborough, outside what I would assume was the afformentioned Hangar in Golf Lane, these are not on show though so you may have to ask someone to see the folder with these photos inside Rgds Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 15:30:55 GMT 1
Thanks, Jeff - gradually, through you, getting the story re Golf Lane! A word of caution. "W47" was a Vickers building designation; it is possible that the hangar at Farnborough may have gone under a different building reference.. Again, thanks Andy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 15:39:31 GMT 1
We didnt get as far as looking at the book with the building numbers in, maybe worth a trip down there
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Post by chevvron on Dec 15, 2013 21:06:02 GMT 1
Hi again, Popped into FAST today on the elusive Golf Lane Hunt, after a very warm welcome from the staff there and lots of conversation about the Bramley Golf course (near Fleet Pond ) when the guy on reception came forward (name eludes me now, Bill will know) he started at The RAE in 1936 as a 16 year old !!! he remembers Golf Lane very well, said there was a hangar down there back in the day, location, somewhere near "Runways End" Scout HQ behind the Army Golf club !, they have a List of building numbers and their locations so "W42" shouldnt be to hard to track down , they also have quite a few pics of the Windsor aircraft you mention on the ground at Farnborough, outside what I would assume was the afformentioned Hangar in Golf Lane, these are not on show though so you may have to ask someone to see the folder with these photos inside Rgds Jeff Ah that explains it. The Scout HQ 'Runways End' is on the south side of the airfield near the southern end of the old runway 18/36 so Golf Lane was probably there. The only pic of the Vickers Windsor I've seen showing it on the ground at Farnborough was taken on runway 04/22 south of 07/25 and roughly where South 2 Apron is now; you can see the tower of the Farnborough Abbey in the background, so that would mean it was fairly close to where Runways End is now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 21:16:54 GMT 1
Yes, thats what was confusing me, a picture on "historic Farnborough" shows the tree lined Golf Lane with the caption "Golf Lane looking towards Basingstoke canal" doh, the co ordinates given if placed in a lat long finder dropped the pin behind the Monkey Puzzle and very close to a new road called "Vickers Close" double doh, so two clues both on different sides of the airfield....been fun finding out though, I should have gone to FAST in the first place...lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 14:58:35 GMT 1
And, after the War, the Vickers building was designated "E" Hangar, eventually being used by the ETPS...
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Post by chevvron on Dec 16, 2013 18:10:37 GMT 1
And, after the War, the Vickers building was designated "E" Hangar, eventually being used by the ETPS... Hangars at Farnborough were never called hangars until recently, they were called 'Sheds'!! eg 'A Shed' is presently occupied by GAMA Engineering on the edge of what used to be 'A tarmac' but is now East Apron. 'E Shed' was the one buried in the hillside and 'F Shed' was the other one on the south side used by EFD and then TAG. These were both T2s or Bellmans, whilst 'G' and 'H' sheds were T1's, 'H' Shed (now sadly demolished) being the one occupied by the early jets like the E28/39 and the first Meteors. I told them of the historic significance of H Shed but no-one took any notice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 17:00:02 GMT 1
Chevron: From the "Round the Department" section in the RAE News, the building/structure I was referring to was, in the late 40's, called "E" Hangar. I can see where you are coming from; maybe the North side of the RAE/RAF Factory site the buildings went by "shed" designations, but those on the South side used the term "Hangar",especially as they were using the standard RAF-type buildings.. When I was working at the RAE in the late sixties, people referred to those buildings on that side of the airfield as "Hangars" Perhaps the older workers called them "sheds", whilst the youngsters referred to them as Hangars!! Andy
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